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Assyrians Protest Removal of Mayor By Kurdish Government
« on: July 22, 2017, 10:55:32 AM »
http://www.aina.org/news/20170721144351.htm

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Re: Assyrians Protest Removal of Mayor By Kurdish Government
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2017, 01:53:34 PM »
what is currently being done about this? Alqosh is in Nineveh Plains. Iraq's government has already approved NP as a province of its own.

This is the time for armed rebellion. Alqosh isn't a village, it's a whole town. KDP is testing our resilience.
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Re: Assyrians Protest Removal of Mayor By Kurdish Government
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2017, 10:46:23 AM »
what is currently being done about this? Alqosh is in Nineveh Plains. Iraq's government has already approved NP as a province of its own.

This is the time for armed rebellion. Alqosh isn't a village, it's a whole town. KDP is testing our resilience.

Hold your horses mrzurnci  :) and let us establish some facts

1-Alqosh even according to the article is under jurisdiction of the central government of Iraq NOT Kurdistan

2-There is an organization called "Anti Corruption units" (دائرة النزاه) in all the provinces of Iraq except Kurdistan   . The Anti corruption units are completely autonomous and answers to no one in the province they work in and their contact is with Baghdad directly and only Baghdad . They have the freedom to investigate anyone and everyone including government officials , They are the most feared unit by government officiels and even Atheel al Nujifi's brother was investigated few years back .

3-All allegation of corruption done by the Anti corruption units in Mosul are sent to Baghdad and the person accused is interviewed IN BAGHDAD AND THE DECISION IS MADE IN BAGHDAD whether the accusation have any grounds .

4-Bashar Alkiki is the head of the Nineveh Province Council YES and by the way he is The Luxembourg Peace Prize winner   , but he can not fire the guy who makes tea for him for corruption .

5-Mr.Fayez Abed Jawahreh is obviously a corrupt individual based on the investigations and he was investigated by Baghdad and fired by Baghdad .

I'm honestly shocked how uninformed Assyrian are and how misleading your medias are .You guys believe every single peace of garbage written as long as it is anti kurd .



 
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Re: Assyrians Protest Removal of Mayor By Kurdish Government
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Re: Assyrians Protest Removal of Mayor By Kurdish Government
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2017, 02:06:25 PM »
Hold your horses mrzurnci  :) and let us establish some facts

1-Alqosh even according to the article is under jurisdiction of the central government of Iraq NOT Kurdistan

2-There is an organization called "Anti Corruption units" (دائرة النزاه) in all the provinces of Iraq except Kurdistan   . The Anti corruption units are completely autonomous and answers to no one in the province they work in and their contact is with Baghdad directly and only Baghdad . They have the freedom to investigate anyone and everyone including government officials , They are the most feared unit by government officiels and even Atheel al Nujifi's brother was investigated few years back .

3-All allegation of corruption done by the Anti corruption units in Mosul are sent to Baghdad and the person accused is interviewed IN BAGHDAD AND THE DECISION IS MADE IN BAGHDAD whether the accusation have any grounds .

4-Bashar Alkiki is the head of the Nineveh Province Council YES and by the way he is The Luxembourg Peace Prize winner   , but he can not fire the guy who makes tea for him for corruption .

5-Mr.Fayez Abed Jawahreh is obviously a corrupt individual based on the investigations and he was investigated by Baghdad and fired by Baghdad .

I'm honestly shocked how uninformed Assyrian are and how misleading your medias are .You guys believe every single peace of garbage written as long as it is anti kurd .


ok, mind explaining why Mr Fayez was just thrown out and replaced with someone else without a re-election to replace Fayez?

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Re: Assyrians Protest Removal of Mayor By Kurdish Government
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2017, 04:32:35 PM »
ok, mind explaining why Mr Fayez was just thrown out and replaced with someone else without a re-election to replace Fayez?

If you want to know why he was thrown out , you will have to ask Baghdad because Anti corruption units deal directly and ONLY with federal government . All Provincial entities including the mayor of mosul have ZERO power over them ,

Provincial election can not be held every time someone gets fired , sick , or die . You know very well it does not work like that even in the west . He/she is usually replaced by someone until the election held .

To simply throw the blame on Bashar Alkiki because he is a Kurd is misleading and has nothing to do with the truth .
 

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Re: Assyrians Protest Removal of Mayor By Kurdish Government
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2017, 08:34:13 PM »
If you want to know why he was thrown out , you will have to ask Baghdad because Anti corruption units deal directly and ONLY with federal government . All Provincial entities including the mayor of mosul have ZERO power over them ,

Provincial election can not be held every time someone gets fired , sick , or die . You know very well it does not work like that even in the west . He/she is usually replaced by someone until the election held .

To simply throw the blame on Bashar Alkiki because he is a Kurd is misleading and has nothing to do with the truth .
 

Being a Kurd doesn't matter, Yezidis are alledgedly kurds but we don't hate or go against on them, Suspicion here is that Al-Kiki is a member of the KDP which I've already told you has members that abuse their power against other people. Secondly, you're saying not to trust these news at face value, I can argue why should I trust you at face value as well as opposed to these news sites? As far as we're all concerned, you're a random person on the internet.
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Re: Assyrians Protest Removal of Mayor By Kurdish Government
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2017, 11:30:12 AM »
Suspicion here is that Al-Kiki is a member of the KDP which I've already told you has members that abuse their power against other people.

Suspicion is NOT a fact based and that is what I'm pointing out . You guys are not paranoid as I used to think , You simply despise Kurds and will do anything to get back at them which I find it really disturbing  . As I pointed out that corruption cases are federal issue not provincial . Those in the provincial level are investigated by federal government through Anti Corruption units so the notion that Alkiki some how is responsible for the dismissal of Alqosh mayor is beyond ridiculous .

Secondly, you're saying not to trust these news at face value, I can argue why should I trust you at face value as well as opposed to these news sites? As far as we're all concerned, you're a random person on the internet.
Never take anything I say at face value and everything I mentioned here can be easily verified with a phone call to Iraqi embassy or دائرة النزاهة العراقية‬‎ . They have a web site and a facebook account . But it is easier to just stick it to kurds :)

why did you delete your comment about Me being Asayish lol ?
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Re: Assyrians Protest Removal of Mayor By Kurdish Government
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2017, 05:10:48 PM »
Suspicion is NOT a fact based and that is what I'm pointing out . You guys are not paranoid as I used to think , You simply despise Kurds and will do anything to get back at them which I find it really disturbing  . As I pointed out that corruption cases are federal issue not provincial . Those in the provincial level are investigated by federal government through Anti Corruption units so the notion that Alkiki some how is responsible for the dismissal of Alqosh mayor is beyond ridiculous .
Never take anything I say at face value and everything I mentioned here can be easily verified with a phone call to Iraqi embassy or دائرة النزاهة العراقية‬‎ . They have a web site and a facebook account . But it is easier to just stick it to kurds :)

why did you delete your comment about Me being Asayish lol ?

now you're just projecting, Ezidi is a Kurd and we don't hate him/her. s/he says crackpot stuff but we're not gonna hate him/her.

You're equating our dislike of (Sunni) Islam with hate of Kurds which is utterly ridiculous for you to assume.

Whether you like it or not, most Kurds are Sunni Muslim, unless 80-90% of the Kurdish population shifts away from Islam, We're not gonna trust them.

This is a pattern I've noticed through out history books; if you place trust in Muslims, you get backstabbed. So knowing this, why would I trust Muslim Kurds? Especially when I know Sunni Kurds backstab each other?

Need I remind you that it was Muslim Kurds who participated in the Armenian and Assyrian genocide?

If you think I'm going to trust someone who believes that a pedophilic warlord was a messenger of God, then you're insane.

Again, I'm not trusting any Kurd unless I know for sure they're not Sunni Muslim...
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Re: Assyrians Protest Removal of Mayor By Kurdish Government
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2017, 10:25:05 PM »
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what is currently being done about this? Alqosh is in Nineveh Plains. Iraq's government has already approved NP as a province of its own.

This is the time for armed rebellion. Alqosh isn't a village, it's a whole town. KDP is testing our resilience.

You're naive if you believe Iraq will develop a NP province.

NP will be split between Kurdistan and Iraq. 

Villages like Alqosh, Tesqopa will join KRG and towns like Bakhdida, Bartella will remain part of Iraq.

What Assyrians should be doing is ensuring NP is not partitioned so we don't split our people up between nations.

We must use whatever leverage we have, work with Ezidis as well to ensure both of our rights are granted.

If you didn't know, Iraq places Shabak in Bartella (they're Shi'a) to dilute our population in the town. Kurds do the same in other Assyrian villages, I don't blame them, both want to make us weak.

We must get out of this pro-Iraq/anti-Kurd mindset and look at things with a clearer perspective. Whoever gives us the better rights and accepts our demands should be the one we join, simple as that.

If Kurds allow us our own province in NP then we will go with them.

Remember, majority of our population is in cities like Dohuk, Zakho, Erbil and NP. They're all in the north of Iraq and mostly in the KRI. It is unwise to go with Iraq and divide our already divided population. Our population in Baghdad is 20,000 tops.

 

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