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On this day (July 14) , 1958
« on: July 14, 2015, 12:40:48 PM »
On this day in 1958, Iraq's monarchy was overthrown in a bloody coup.

The rest is more blood and destruction. Monarchy was not perfect but better than what we have had since then.

Some experts say that Iraq's monarchy was never overthrown, by now, Iraq would virtually be part of the developed world and would be sending aid to third world countries.

Of course, the reverse happened and Iraq is now a third world country, defined by blood, divisions, wars, terrorism and other crap...


Here is a picture of the king (Faisal II ), riding with the queen of England (in 1950s?)



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Re: On this day (July 14) , 1958
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2015, 12:41:56 PM »
Here is how the events unfolded (according to this website)

The 14th July Revolution in Iraq

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In the summer of 1958, King Hussein of Jordan asked for Iraqi military assistance during the escalating Lebanon crisis. Units of the Iraqi Army under the command of Abd al-Karim Qasim, en route to Jordan, chose to march on Baghdad instead, where they mounted a coup d'état on 14 July 1958.

During the 14 July Revolution, Faisal II ordered the royal guard to offer no resistance, and Faisal himself surrendered to the insurgents. Around 8 am, Captain Abdul Sattar Sabaa Al-Ibousi, leading the revolutionary assault group at the palace, ordered the King, Crown Prince 'Abd al-Ilah‎, Princess Hiyam ('Abd al-Ilah‎'s wife), Princess Nafeesa ('Abd al-Ilah‎'s mother), Princess Abadiya (Faisal's aunt) and several servants to gather in the palace courtyard. Here, they were told to turn towards the wall, where all were immediately machine-gunned by their captors. Faisal, who had not died during the initial fusillade, was transported to a hospital, but died en-route. Princess Hiyam survived her injuries, caused during the massacre, and was able to escape the country.



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Re: On this day (July 14) , 1958
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2015, 04:15:35 PM »
the same monarchy responsible for our 1933 killings....

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Re: On this day (July 14) , 1958
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Re: On this day (July 14) , 1958
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2015, 10:24:41 PM »
Iraq would've been a first world country and in the likes of Kuwait and UAE if Saddam never existed.

Such pity.
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Re: On this day (July 14) , 1958
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2015, 01:02:02 AM »
Iraq would've been a first world country and in the likes of Kuwait and UAE if Saddam never existed.

Such pity.

I agree, that Qasim guy seemed to be the most positive force that Iraq ever experienced...

Under his rule, he mended Arab and Kurdish hatred, promoted economic growth with a high middle class system, he allowed Syriac to be taught in schools until Saddam banned all other languages that weren't Arabic, promoted freedom of worship,

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Re: On this day (July 14) , 1958
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2015, 01:42:55 AM »
Iraq would've been a first world country and in the likes of Kuwait and UAE if Saddam never existed.

Such pity.

Even if Suddam Hussain once ruled Iraq or didn't, it still would have been a **** hole and a 3rd world country.

I wish Iraq was at least Secular as Turkey, they have 15 Million Shias and 50 Million Sunnis and they at least one terrorist attack every year. (Same in Australia or America).

Iraq has 20 Million Shias and 15 Million Sunnis and 5 people die from Shia-Sunni violence everyday and they are at least one car bombing everyday.


Shias actually build huge shopping centres, schools, houses ect. But are blown up by Sunni Extremists. Many Assyrians in Southern-Iraq would rather live in the shia area rather then in the north with the Sunni Arabs.

Sadly Ninewa is like 90% Sunni Arab which sucks really bad...
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Re: On this day (July 14) , 1958
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2015, 03:26:59 AM »
Even if Suddam Hussain once ruled Iraq or didn't, it still would have been a **** hole and a 3rd world country.

I wish Iraq was at least Secular as Turkey, they have 15 Million Shias and 50 Million Sunnis and they at least one terrorist attack every year. (Same in Australia or America).

Iraq has 20 Million Shias and 15 Million Sunnis and 5 people die from Shia-Sunni violence everyday and they are at least one car bombing everyday.


Shias actually build huge shopping centres, schools, houses ect. But are blown up by Sunni Extremists. Many Assyrians in Southern-Iraq would rather live in the shia area rather then in the north with the Sunni Arabs.

Sadly Ninewa is like 90% Sunni Arab which sucks really bad...

Um, do you realize what you wrote is happening in the tangent where Saddam existed?
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Re: On this day (July 14) , 1958
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2015, 03:58:20 AM »
Um, do you realize what you wrote is happening in the tangent where Saddam existed?

Ok... and??

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Re: On this day (July 14) , 1958
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2015, 04:43:03 AM »
Ok... and??
If Saddam were never president, it's highly likely that there wouldn't have been frequent terror attacks in Iraq.
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Re: On this day (July 14) , 1958
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2015, 05:39:10 AM »
If Saddam were never president, it's highly likely that there wouldn't have been frequent terror attacks in Iraq.

 :loool: :lmao:

Before and After Suddam Hussain's ruling in Iraq, they were a high number of terrorist attacks.

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Re: On this day (July 14) , 1958
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2015, 10:02:03 AM »
:loool: :lmao:

Before and After Suddam Hussain's ruling in Iraq, they were a high number of terrorist attacks.
Still, they wouldn't have been as bad as they are now. They would've been in the Lebanon and Tunisia level, to the least.
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Re: On this day (July 14) , 1958
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2015, 06:15:37 AM »
What was wrong with Abdul Karim Qasim? He introduced reforms which shat on the Hashemite monarchy. Even the Syrians didn't want Faisal. Remember King Faisal's moanarchy was involved in the Simele massacre..

You can't put a foreigner as a king of Iraq, it doesn't work. Saddam WAS secular,  he was an Arab nationalist but as you could notice, at the end of his tenure as leader he became extremely sectarian.

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Re: On this day (July 14) , 1958
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2015, 01:37:59 AM »
What was wrong with Abdul Karim Qasim? He introduced reforms which shat on the Hashemite monarchy. Even the Syrians didn't want Faisal. Remember King Faisal's moanarchy was involved in the Simele massacre..

You can't put a foreigner as a king of Iraq, it doesn't work. Saddam WAS secular,  he was an Arab nationalist but as you could notice, at the end of his tenure as leader he became extremely sectarian.

Saddam also forcefully spread our people so they'd have a weakened tie to the land... Same thing to the Kurds and Shi'a Arabs...

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Re: On this day (July 14) , 1958
« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2015, 05:05:08 AM »
Saddam also forcefully spread our people so they'd have a weakened tie to the land... Same thing to the Kurds and Shi'a Arabs...

Not trying to defend the son of a ***** but he forcefully removed our people and the Kurds due to our nationality rather than our religion.

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Re: On this day (July 14) , 1958
« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2015, 05:17:27 PM »
Not trying to defend the son of a ***** but he forcefully removed our people and the Kurds due to our nationality rather than our religion.

i know.,...

 

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