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Syria Interfering in Assyrian Church Affairs
« on: June 01, 2007, 04:30:36 PM »
(AINA) -- The Patriarch of the Syriac Orthodox Church, based in Syria, has suspended Archbishop Julius Hanna Aydin of Germany, according to the EasternStar News Agency. According to Archbishop Aydin, his suspension is because a powerful block of pro-Syria bishops in the Church opposes him because he is not a Syrian national.

Archbishop Aydin was one of the founders of the Aramean movement in Europe, which held that Assyrians are Arameans. This caused a schism within the Assyrian community and within the church body. Today Archbishop Aydin his recanted his support for the Aramean movement and regrets having caused divisions within the Assyrian community. "Assyrians, Arameans and Chaldeans, no matter what we call ourselves we are one people and must be united." he says.

According to some Assyrians in Germany, the Syrian secret service (mukhabarat) has undue influence over bishops in Syria and is attempting to divide Germany into three different Episcopal sees to more easily control the Assyrians. Some church officials have stated that Syria does not want the Assyrians to unite. Archbishop Aydin, they point out, constituted no threat to the Syrian government and its representatives within the Syriac Orthodox Church in Germany when he was an anti-Assyrian. It was when he advocated unity, when he started building bridges between different groups that he was stopped.





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Re: Syria Interfering in Assyrian Church Affairs
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2007, 05:06:45 PM »
(AINA) -- The Patriarch of the Syriac Orthodox Church, based in Syria, has suspended Archbishop Julius Hanna Aydin of Germany, according to the EasternStar News Agency. According to Archbishop Aydin, his suspension is because a powerful block of pro-Syria bishops in the Church opposes him because he is not a Syrian national.

Archbishop Aydin was one of the founders of the Aramean movement in Europe, which held that Assyrians are Arameans. This caused a schism within the Assyrian community and within the church body. Today Archbishop Aydin his recanted his support for the Aramean movement and regrets having caused divisions within the Assyrian community. "Assyrians, Arameans and Chaldeans, no matter what we call ourselves we are one people and must be united." he says.

According to some Assyrians in Germany, the Syrian secret service (mukhabarat) has undue influence over bishops in Syria and is attempting to divide Germany into three different Episcopal sees to more easily control the Assyrians. Some church officials have stated that Syria does not want the Assyrians to unite. Archbishop Aydin, they point out, constituted no threat to the Syrian government and its representatives within the Syriac Orthodox Church in Germany when he was an anti-Assyrian. It was when he advocated unity, when he started building bridges between different groups that he was stopped.




I don't understand.  Why would nationalism-based governments try to keep Assyrians split in national identity, and rather simply encourage defining them as religious "sectors" of their society?  That makes no sense.  It's not like we've experience this before in, say, Pan-Arab nationalist Iraq, Ataturkian Nationalist Turkey, or Kurdish nationalist-based "Kurdistan"...

It's as if they all fear our ethnic identity.  Hmmm.

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Re: Syria Interfering in Assyrian Church Affairs
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2007, 07:06:54 PM »
I don't understand.  Why would nationalism-based governments try to keep Assyrians split in national identity, and rather simply encourage defining them as religious "sectors" of their society?  That makes no sense.  It's not like we've experience this before in, say, Pan-Arab nationalist Iraq, Ataturkian Nationalist Turkey, or Kurdish nationalist-based "Kurdistan"...

It's as if they all fear our ethnic identity. Hmmm.

I was thinking the same thing.  The day for redemption is at hand. 

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Re: Syria Interfering in Assyrian Church Affairs
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2007, 06:50:52 AM »
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I don't understand.  Why would nationalism-based governments try to keep Assyrians split in national identity, and rather simply encourage defining them as religious "sectors" of their society?  That makes no sense.  It's not like we've experience this before in, say, Pan-Arab nationalist Iraq, Ataturkian Nationalist Turkey, or Kurdish nationalist-based "Kurdistan"...

It's as if they all fear our ethnic identity.  Hmmm.


Well I am not sure about that, but what would happen in Syria, if all Christians there start devloping Assyrian nationalism? Syria has around 2 mio Christians, would be quite funny to see them beeing Assyrians  :clap:

But, middleeastern people, seem to be somehow afraid of Assyrians Nation lol...khina akhnne iwekh nashe miskineh...modila besdaya...

maybe thats why:



fearing a man or group could come unity the people...and then the Operation "cleaning nonAssyrians" could restart  :wavetowel:

or they just fear the nose



 :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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Re: Syria Interfering in Assyrian Church Affairs
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2007, 07:06:39 AM »
Well I am not sure about that, but what would happen in Syria, if all Christians there start devloping Assyrian nationalism? Syria has around 2 mio Christians, would be quite funny to see them beeing Assyrians  :clap:

But, middleeastern people, seem to be somehow afraid of Assyrians Nation lol...khina akhnne iwekh nashe miskineh...modila besdaya...

maybe thats why:



fearing a man or group could come unity the people...and then the Operation "cleaning nonAssyrians" could restart  :wavetowel:

or they just fear the nose



 :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:



lol nasha beekheshvan eyeneh zehdeetila hal men oh dora atiqa men *****reh atourayeh.
Maybe it was the Syrian government that caused this Aramean problem.
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